Request for samples

Platinum_ar

I'm struggling with Aware IM from some time and I'm still not shure if I can build full featured business app with this tool.
There is not enough tutorials and guides in internet.
To be honest I'm not sure whether it is worth to spend more time on finding solutions to certain problems.

I see that this forum has many members.
Please, share with links to your app if you have something to show.

kklosson

Platinum_ar,

You are speaking to a fairly large group of devotees who will argue profusely that just about any business application can be constructed with AwareIM. While there may be many applications for which it is not suited (like on-line diagramming or something), it is very well suited for constructing business applications of all types. Basically, look at the large components of any business application. Information manipulation, access rights, complex business logic, reports, graphs, notifications, etc. I think that before anyone will answer your request seriously, you need to fully explore AwareIM and determine if there is some capability that you need to provide that AwareIM can't support. Then you should ask this forum if anyone has a strategy to do it.

If you are struggling with the development concepts, which are unique but not hard to grasp, then I recommend you view the many tutorials on their web site.

The commercial application I made with AwareIM can be viewed at www.pobits.com. There is a button on the home page to view a lengthy presentation. Probably boring, but it's all AwareIM out of the box.

Good luck on your project.

Powerm

Did you played with the sample apps ? http://awareim.com/sample-applications/

We made a lot of pro apps with AwareIM, they are stable and features can be added on demand. Don't forget that not all our clients are wanting to see a public version of their own app.
You have to play with the sample apps or hire a developer if you need your own app.

RLJB

Stick with it. Start simple, just submit a form. Then build from there.

Read the manual (4 times!), most won't make sense initially, open the CRM sample app, and understand it as a user (ie before you look at the configuration).

Aware is faster to learn than coding. In the worst case pay support $1000 to build you the app in its basic form then you can work it from there.

And.... Don't forget to have fun!

rocketman

Never programmed in Java, muddled through with vb script and asp (enough for my simple needs). Built a full blown gliding club admin app with companion mobile app including accounts and PayPal payments using AwareIM

Now running for the first time a new online membership renewal module with multiple payment options

Stick with it

hpl123

Hi Rocketman,
Just curious regarding the membership renewal part of your application. Have you fully integrated multiple payment options in your application with everything connected/automated?
If so, how is it working?

By the way, doesnt paypal support subscriptions for e.g membership fees etc? Did you try paypal only first and then further develop this new part of the application?
Thanks, regards Henrik

rocketman

Hi, Henrik,

Our club actually frowns upon the use of PayPal saying it's too expensive despite me telling them that all the online gateways are about the same.but we offer it as a matter of convenience and because members prefer to use it.

Members can pay by PP account, credit or debit card via the same gateway. We offer direct debit and the member can complete the renewal online, download the DD form and return it completed to the office. The one bit that isn't fully automated is payment by BACS. The renewal is held in a Pending state until our office staff have confirmed payment has been cleared. They then just hit the "Paid" button and the transactions are then applied to the sales ledger accounts.

So I guess the short answer is No - not in the way you mean using multiple gateways. I have toyed with the idea of developing an interface to different gateways - but as this is a labour of love (I am a club member) and nobody is paying, I don't really have the time

hpl123

rocketman wrote
Hi, Henrik,

Our club actually frowns upon the use of PayPal saying it's too expensive despite me telling them that all the online gateways are about the same.but we offer it as a matter of convenience and because members prefer to use it.

Members can pay by PP account, credit or debit card via the same gateway. We offer direct debit and the member can complete the renewal online, download the DD form and return it completed to the office. The one bit that isn't fully automated is payment by BACS. The renewal is held in a Pending state until our office staff have confirmed payment has been cleared. They then just hit the "Paid" button and the transactions are then applied to the sales ledger accounts.

So I guess the short answer is No - not in the way you mean using multiple gateways. I have toyed with the idea of developing an interface to different gateways - but as this is a labour of love (I am a club member) and nobody is paying, I don't really have the time

Ok thanks
Henrik

customaware

I opted for a single days training with Aware while in Sydney on a business trip late last year....

Was a huge help.

malypetu

Guys
Thinking on going Aware IM for my web app dev, and I need a bit of advice on training cost and locations. I am based on north area of Sydney.

Also if somebody can shed a bit of light on company developing this product, they seem to be located in Hornsby but no answer to the phone 9029 1220.

I need info on hardware software cost.

Cheers

RLJB

Drop an email to support@awareim.com and you will get an answer pretty fast.

Powerm

You can email me as well for rapid development. I do have clients in Australia, USA and Europe.
Have a look at my new webpage : atwing.com/wp

aware_support

Please send an e-mail to support@awareim.com if you have any questions

malypetu

Thanks for all the replies. I have request the information. However I still got a couple of questions to be answered:

How did you guys got the training done, as far as I can see this is an Australia based company. If it was self taught means is that easy?

How much time a programmer/DBA require to learn this tool to the level of being productive?

What is the market reaction to apps of a relatively unknown software/

Cheers

hpl123

kklosson wrote
Platinum_ar,

You are speaking to a fairly large group of devotees who will argue profusely that just about any business application can be constructed with AwareIM. While there may be many applications for which it is not suited (like on-line diagramming or something), it is very well suited for constructing business applications of all types. Basically, look at the large components of any business application. Information manipulation, access rights, complex business logic, reports, graphs, notifications, etc. I think that before anyone will answer your request seriously, you need to fully explore AwareIM and determine if there is some capability that you need to provide that AwareIM can't support. Then you should ask this forum if anyone has a strategy to do it.

If you are struggling with the development concepts, which are unique but not hard to grasp, then I recommend you view the many tutorials on their web site.

The commercial application I made with AwareIM can be viewed at www.pobits.com. There is a button on the home page to view a lengthy presentation. Probably boring, but it's all AwareIM out of the box.

Good luck on your project.

Hi Kklosson,
First of all, congratulations on a great application (Pobits). I like the logic aspects you have built in and I use some parts of that as inspiration to an application I am building. I have a problem with my application that I see you have solved in Pobits and I was hoping you could share how you solved it.

The problem is line up of the question and answer part of a form. I have tried various things to get the question and answer to line up perfectly but haven´t gotten it to work in the way I want yet. I have tried having the question in the label of a Yes/No plain text attribute but that doesn´t work, I have tried having 2 separate attributes and then I can get the besides each other but then the form design "sucks", I have tried creating a custom html attribute with the question and then have a Yes/No plain text attribute (radio buttons) as the answer and this is where I am right now, trying to get the html/yes-no solution to work but the attributes are not lined up. How did you solve this in your application?

What i´m after is having the question to the left in the form and in just plain text like a label, it should not be encapsulated in a text box and then having the yes/no radio buttons perfectly lined up on the same row. It should look/work in the same way as it does in Pobits.

PS: I see in Pobits that the Q/A parts of your application are on a white background and not the light blue I would expect (the form background in the light blue theme is light blue). Have you created a custom solution?

Thanks in advance.

kklosson

Hi and thank you,

My application includes a lengthy questionnaire. Each question is an attribute, generally plain text with two options, yes and no. I simply changed the display properties (the prompt) to be the question being asked, and I used radio buttons as the option display. You say this did not work, but I'm curious why not. Nothing custom in my form.

It would also be possible to setup columns on your form and have an html cell for the prompt and an attribute cell for the response. You said you tried this too and I imagine this is not optimal anyway.

You say you couldn't get the attributes to line up. Do you mean horizontally or vertically? Horizontally, I presume. If you want the response to be right next to the prompt in every case, then try this...

Put in a separator for each question and set the width of the prompt to give you just the space you need. This will take for vertical space and may present some other unwanted design characteristics, but will provide maximum control.

I hope I've given you something to work with.

hpl123

Thanks for the tips.

I must have done something wrong when I first did this because now it works. I tried having the question in the label of a plain text attribute but previously I couldn't change the label width so the entire question was jammed together (2 words per line going downward). I did set the width of the column this time and this must have been the problem (when the column width is not set, the label width value is ignored).

Also, good idea with the separator, I will try that.
Thanks