2 AwareIM systems interacting / sharing data ??

tford

Good morning,

I would like to have 2 BSV interact and share a few pieces of information.

1 - BSV #1 will connecting to an existing SQL database of a third part in read only mode. This system has some email addresses on it that I would like to retrieve and use on transactions in BSV #2.

2 - BSV #2 is a native AwareIM application that operates on MySql. At certain times, I need to use a customer # from this system to find the record for that customer in BSV #1 and use the email addresses info retrieved from BSV #1 to send an email from BSV#2.

Can anyone shed light how to set up interaction between these 2 BSVs?

Thanks!

RocketRod

Tom why are you not adding the table from the SQL database as an existing external table to BSV 2? Can you elaborate a little on why you need two BSV's?

Cheers Rod

tford

Good question, Rod!

At the time I wrote the question, I didn't realize that 1 BSV could interact with data from 2 different databases.

Even knowing that though, I want to have BSVs interact in certain cases rather than duplicate configuration efforts in the separate BSVs.

Also, it's one of the last areas of AwareIM that I have not explored yet & I just want to know how to do it 🙂

RocketRod

Ok.

I would just add the table(s) of BSV 1 as existing external tables to BSV 2. As far as I can see that tables can be from an AwareIM database. Use the ID of the BO as the key. You can even set up a view of BSV 1 tables and add that as a single existing external table in BSV 2. I would only do this though if I was reading data from BSV 1.

Cheers Rod

tford

Yep, I could accomplish my short term need like you are talking about, but the User Guide talks about using Services to have 2 AwareIM systems communicate.

I want to learn about how to do that, but the User Guide talks about the general process .. not the specific steps. My brain works best with a concrete working example to follow 🙂

Gabbitas

Hi Tom and All,

Did you ever get any further along with getting 2 AwareIM Systems communicating with each other? I am also looking to experiment a little with this functionality. Have searched these forums and can seem to find many pointers in the user guide.

Any help or examples would be very greatly appreciated

Thanks, Andy

tford

Hi Andy,

No, I have not tackled this yet but am still interested.

pbrad

Hi,
Okay, I will share my hard won knowledge but please don't inundate me with questions about soap.

You can download a sample host bsv and a corresponding client bsv from http://www.iportcentral.com/AwareIM/SoapDemo_Host-Client.zip

You will need to load and login to the host as an admin user and create several master products then shut down your AwareIM Server and then re-start it which should expose your wsdl file. After you have discovered the wsdl file in the client bsv, login to the client and create an instance of the intelligent object. You will likely find that if you discover the wsdl file it will create duplicate BO's. If so, just go back and delete those BO's and re-rediscover them.

The sample client bsv is then able to suck in any of the products being exposed by the host. Any changes to these master products in the client will automatically be reflected in the host. Any new products that are created in the client will automatically be added to the host. If new products exists in the host or changes have been made to products in the host, the update/sync operation will delete all instances of the client products and replace them instantly with the new and revised host products.

A couple of comments:

-The documentation by AwareIM regarding web services is frankly quite awful. It is sketchy, inaccurate and totally frustrating. Sorry to be a little negative here but the truth is the truth. AwareIM in general however remains to be entirely awesome - both the company and the product!

Calling a web service exposed by an Aware IM system and using arrays from another Aware IM system doesn't work. This is only a problem if you call it from an Aware IM system. Normally you would call it from a third party application. Anyway, the bug is fixed and if you want to test it fully you can download a patch http://www.awareim.com/awareim.jar (you should be running the latest build 1642 before applying the patch).
A host object in the client BSV should have an intelligence type "Software System", rather than an "Aware IM system". In fact, an Aware IM system should no longer be used at all. This is not documented.
Sending multiple objects as parameters by the client is not supported by AwareIM. That is why I went with the dynamic additions and modifications in the client. Theoretically however, if the client is not an AwareIM product, they should be able to modify and add multiple products to the host at the same time.
I am providing these samples as-is. I will answer any questions that I can in this forum but I am not an expert in this area. If you have any problems, get out your midnight candles and your wallets for the AwareIM support team as I did.

Good luck,
cheers,
Pete
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aware_support

The best source of "documentation" about web services at the moment is the corresponding video tutorial. We agree web services/services are poorly documented at the moment, but the whole process for the most part should be covered in the tutorial. The tutorial should be adequate for most uses of the feature, even though there are, of course, issues not covered there. They can be explained/discussed here

pbrad

Hey,
Don't get me wrong. I am your biggest fan and have been for a long time but I think that you have to be open to honest feedback. The tutorial is great as far as it goes but I really don't think that I am alone in my long-standing confusion and frustration with AwareIM web services. I am thrilled to see that it has received your attention in recent months and it is great as far as it goes but the documentation leads to a lot of unanswered questions in my mind at least.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to be negative, just to point out to the other users that they are not alone in their confusion and that it does work but users should plan on a little head scratching and even paying AwareIM for a little help. (Which I was happy to do)

Keep up the great work,
Pete

aware_support

Hi Pete,

you are right and we fully accept any negative feedback. The reason for our reply was to point out the best source of documentation for web services at the moment (video tutorial), so that people use their time more effectively.