► What will be the major feature of V9?

BenHayat

Beginning of Every year, car manufactures showcase the next year's car and also give hints of cars coming in near future.
In V7 the major feature was to replace the UI Library.
In V8 the major feature was to replace the IDE.
What is the major feature of V9 going to be?

Or can we put in our wish list?
Thanks!

aware_support

We will be talking about this at the Conference. You can certainly put in your wish list, though.

customaware

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BenHayat

aware_support wrote
You can certainly put in your wish list, though.

I'd like to see, a complete revamp, from ground up REST Service expose that is based on industry REST standard and as a first-class citizen implementation.
This should server two major purposes:

1) Allows AwareIM to be independently used as a backend server which any type of client can use it in full stateless mode.
2) Change Aware client system to use REST instead of legacy RPC to reduce state data and allows a better scaling and consume a lot less resources on the server.

Although, this is a major undertaking, which might take both V9.0 and V9.1 to complete.
Note: Also please change the security system to standard OAuth 2.x and token system so it becomes seamless for other system to communicate with.

After changing UI library, IDE, this would be the last part of Aware to be up to date with industry.
Note: My wish list is simply a desire for Aware to be used by a wide range of developers and not trying to find fault in it.

MichaelQ

This may not be possible (certainly not easily) but it would be great to see:

An attempt to implement 'separation of concerns,' whereby a UI designer could safely be granted access to the configurator without the risk of them altering or messing up the data structure, business rules etc.
Ability to have multiple developers working on the same project without everything getting hosed, and better version control features.

'Note: My wish list is simply a desire for Aware to be used by a wide range of developers and not trying to find fault in it.'

weblike

Hi all,

#1 & only for me=> strong multi-tenant apps with multiple databases.

Let me detail:
The possibility to connect to multiple databases based on rules. Like in other frameworks, to be able to create a multi-tenant app and each tenant to have own DB.

Developer could setup a shared DB for users and licenses and separate DB's for business objects for each tenant.

'Note: My wish list is simply a desire for Aware to be used by a wide range of developers and not trying to find fault in it.'

customaware

Hi Georghe,

Am I missing something. Why cant you do as you describe now?

BenHayat

eagles9999 wrote
Hi Georghe,

Am I missing something. Why cant you do as you describe now?

Mark, what he is saying (correct me if I'm wrong George), is that, he wants to have a SINGLE BSV running, but at runtime assign different DB Connections assign to different tenant, which essentially means instead of ALL the records/objects to be in ONE DB, they are spread into multiple DBs (each tenant gets his own) and for the users table, all to share one common DB.

Someways like Magic that we were able to assign DB connection at runtime than statically at design time as it is now.

customaware

I think it is a moot point.

If I wanted that situation then I would have a Multiple Business Space SaaS.

There are people doing that already. When a new Tenant registers on Ranfab, it creates the new BS and DB and it also does it on the server closest to the tenant all automatically.

And.... I might add..... SaaS app in Magic... Yeah, Right! 😉

weblike

Hi again,

Ben you are right.

Mark, sorry for misunderstanding.
Mark as you describe it, each tenant would have a separate BS, which is good and not. Easy to setup at first, but hard to maintain/scale afterwards.
In your scenario, how do you add features to all tenants? Copy manually the bsv for each tenant or do you have an automatically system?

My point of view is like Ben described it (better than me): single BSV with multiple DB connections assigned at runtime for each tenant.

Thank you.

weblike

My point of view is not something I have invented, this feature is present in other modern frameworks.

Combining the advantages described by Vlad in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acuJtEJYUc4&t=7s, Aware could have a huge feature for multi-tenancy.

In fact with this feature the disadvantages described in the video for both approaches of multi-tenancy (supported now by AwareIM) are almost gone entirely.

aware_support

Assigning database connections dynamically goes against the Aware IM philosophy, is messy and hard to implement in the Aware IM framework. So the question is which problems does this technical solution help to solve?

As Mark says, the standard Aware IM approach is to create a separate business space for a tenant and then allocate a separate database for it. But as George says the problem with this is that when you add a feature to your system you need to push it to all business spaces at once. This problem can be easily solved by adding a feature that does this at the press of a button. So we'd much rather implement this feature then implement "dynamic assignment of database connections".

Are there any other problems with the standard Aware IM approach?

In general, when suggesting features please try to focus on the problems that a feature will help solve, rather than suggest technical solutions. This applies to everyone who suggests a feature in Aware IM. It is much easier for us to understand THE PROBLEM, because then we can pick the most appropriate SOLUTION.

weblike

Hello,
I thought we are speaking of major changes in this post. Like other users said in V7 was the change of Kendo UI, in V8 the change of Configuration Tool.
We are speaking of major changes in v9, right?

In general, when suggesting features please try to focus on the problems that a feature will help solve, rather than suggest technical solutions. This applies to everyone who suggests a feature in Aware IM. It is much easier for us to understand THE PROBLEM, because then we can pick the most appropriate SOLUTION.

In earlier post I have mentioned your youtube video where Pros and Cons of both strategies are mentioned (shared database & separate BSV).

Excuse me for repeating myself "Is not my invention".In other modern frameworks this feature is used in large applications for many years now.

microsoft:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/sql-database/saas-tenancy-app-design-patterns
https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/848111/Multi-Tenancy-System-With-Separate-Databases-in-MV

Laravel/PHP:
https://tomschlick.com/2017/07/25/laracon-2017-multi-tenancy-talk

Pros:
Segmented data. Zero chance of customer A to see customer's B data.
Easier of long term scalability
SuperAdmin dashboard inside the shared DB (for users, licenses, notifications). Admin stuff . Please tell me how you manage Admin stuff with separate BSV's?
Portability: data is easier to export, without complex separation steps.
Backups can be doen separately per tenant, making them easier to restore.
Enterprise customers can be transitioned to on-premise setups easily
Tenant data can be easily deleted at the request of the owner.
Choose where to store a customer's data based on their location

Of course, from above, all are doable with today's architecture, minus the Admin shared part which is critical when you want to sell SaaS apps. Keeping real-time inventory of users/licenses(login data,etc) is an important part for such a business.

'Note: My wish list is simply a desire for Aware to be used by a wide range of developers and not trying to find fault in it.'

Thank you.

aware_support

George,

thank you for your thoughts. In the list of pros that you attach, almost everything can be done using the standard Aware IM approach of one business space per tenant with separate database allocation - isolation, copying, deleting, backups, scaling - everything should be easy.

The only other problem I can see is "admin stuff", but even this can be solved with a separate super-admin business space that interacts with other tenant business spaces using web services. Web service part is quite easy actually - we have actually implemented the entire SaaS solution with super-admin business space in the RanFab application that you can see on our web site. And it worked quite well.

So really I cannot see a legitimate case for another solution - it seems that some tweaks to an existing approach would do the job (specifically, a feature to automatically deploy a BSV for a new tenant that signs up and also automatically push BSV changes to all tenants).

Or am I missing something?

weblike

You pointed well.

The admin stuff. very important.

Could this be covered in a tutorial or some tips&tricks for the whole community? I bet most of the developers do not know about this and how could be implemented in Aware.
Or add an automation feature inside Aware?

Thank you.

aware_support

This is just standard Aware IM services.

For example, let's say your admin part needs to manage payments for tenants - whenever he uses a particular feature a charge is made to his account. So you have an "admin" business space (which may or may not be located on the same machine where tenants are). In this business space you manage tenants, payments and charges among other things. You then create a process that adds a payment for a particular amount for a particular tenant. Then you define an Aware IM service that is implemented by this process. The input to this service is an object containing some identifier of the tenant.

In the business space for tenants you create an object representing the "admin" business space, discover its services and then call the service when the tenant uses a particular functionality. You provide an object that identifies the tenant as input to the service. That's it.

For more details please watch the video tutorial about "services" in Aware IM.

himanshu

Hi,

I wish in near future we should have the plugins download capability inside the configuration tool, which will allow to whole community to get the benefits on both sides. This will be a market place of plugins where plugins are available free or paid both available.

This will really going to extend the capacity who are still looking to have something for their apps. This will open a new market which scale the power of Aware IM features. :idea:

BenHayat

himanshu wrote
Hi,

I wish in near future we should have the plugins download capability inside the configuration tool, which will allow to whole community to get the benefits on both sides. This will be a market place of plugins where plugins are available free or paid both available.

This will really going to extend the capacity who are still looking to have something for their apps. This will open a new market which scale the power of Aware IM features. :idea:

That was one of my wish list item for V8... 🙂